Transcript of Baba’s clarification of murli 24-12-88 ( Tape 17)

Introduction: Murlis are the direct oral teachings of Shivbaba for his soul-conscious children. They empower and act like magic to bring about self-transformation. The language used by Shivbaba is Hindi, which is the mother tongue of his chariot. For children who are not able to hear directly from the father, recorded tapes of the murlis are available for them. English transcripts are translations from the Hindi tapes, suitable for children who do not know Hindi. Readers are advised to read these transcripts in soul-consciousness in order to derive maximum benefit from these messages. Please allow a margin of error when translations are used. Any mistakes are the sole responsibilities of the translators, although every care has been taken to present gyan accurately.

The following questions are answered in this murli’s clarification:

1. What is the real meaning of the song you are the mother and you are the father.
2. How can one kingdom, one government and one religion be established?
3. How can relationships be formed with God?
4. How was the flame of destruction ignited at the beginning of the establishment of the yagya?
5. What is the meaning of Ekvyapi?
6. Who can be God’s biggest child?
7. Can you explain how there are 8 thrones in satyug and 12 in tretayug?
8. Identify the 4 special souls who will reveal the father.
9. What does playing the preordained part of the soul mean?
10. What is the Supreme soul’s aim and object?

The song: You are the mother and you are the father.

In this world, the human beings sing this, you are the mother and the father and we are your children. To sing this song is quite different from practical experience. You can only experience this when you are in front of the mother and father and not by saying you are the mother and you are the father and we are your children. If you are not in front of them then obviously you are just singing for the sake of the song. They sing this song you are the mother and you are the father. Why do they sing it and for whom do they sing it? There definitely must have been a mother and father for whom they sing this song but they do not know for whom they sing it for. This too is a wonderful thing. They just say it for the sake of saying it but you children have it in you intellect, who this mother and father is. It is said this is in the intellects of YOU CHILDREN. It is not said it is in the intellects of all the children. Why is it said in the intellects of YOU children? All are the children of the Supreme Soul Father but the ones who recognize the mother and the father (matapita) are the ones who are sitting in front. For them it is said YOU (tum). Those are the real children.

The father is the resident of the Soul world, the far away land. There is only one Soul world. The golden age cannot be called the Soul world. Satyug happens to be here on this earth. We all live in Paramdham. You know that the souls come form Paramdham or Nirvandham. In Nirvandham there is no speech. We come to this corporeal world from Nirvandham. Swarag (heaven) is not up above. We all come from Paramdham. You children now know that you souls are playing a part through the bodies. How many births you take and how you play the part etc. you know now. It is said for Bap, the one who lives in the far away land, has come into the foreign land. Why is it called the foreign land? He first has to come into Bharat and establishes swarag and then that swarag later on becomes narak-the Ravan rajya. Then there are many religions, many kingdoms and many governments. Then the father has to come and make one kingdom. The authority of that government is in the hands of Lakshmi and Narayan. They keep saying let us all get together and become one but how can that be possible? Five thousand years ago in Bharat there was one government. Lakshmi and Narayan were the world almighty authority. There was no other authority that ruled at that time. All religions cannot become one. In swarag there was only one government. That is why they say everyone should become one. Now the father says I will destroy all these different governments and establish only one Adi Sanathan Deity government. You also say that on the directions of the all-powerful almighty, we are establishing the kingdom of one authority in Bharat. At that time there is only the Deity government and no other government. Five thousand years ago in Bharat or else in the whole world there was only one Deity government. Now the father has come to establish the Deity government again. The father has come to establish the Devta government, Deity means Devta. He has told you the reason for his coming here and his aim and object. When he has come he will complete his aim and object and then he will go back. He cannot go back halfway. He definitely has to complete his task. The Devta government has not been established as yet. No one can say we have become Devtas. You have not become Devtas as yet. There is many hierarchies in the government. As the sangathan (gathering) has not been formed yet therefore the mala (rosary) is not ready. The sangathan is being formed and the Supreme Soul Father has come. It is not that he has gone back. He is establishing the government once again and we children are his helpers. We are the helpers of that father who is establishing the Deity government.

This secret is in the Gita. This is the Rudra gyan yagya. The nirakar is called Rudra and who is also called Shiva? Shiva is the father of the incorporeal souls. Shiva is the name for the father of souls only. He is the father of souls. He is not Baba. Souls are eternal and their father is eternal. Shiva is just the father of souls. He is the imperishable father of the imperishable souls. Relationships are formed when Shiv jotibindu enters into the sakar (corporeal), then he becomes Baba, the father, uncle, brother, mata or pita. Baba means grandfather. It has been said that Rudra is nirakar but nirakar is the father of souls, he is jotibindu, so why has the name Rudra been mentioned? Baba says in the murlis that my name is Shiva and it never changes and then he says when the forms change then the names also change. In the beginning of the yagya the Supreme soul Father took on a Rudra form. Whatever happens in the beginning has to happen in the end also. In the end he takes on a Rudra form again to accomplish the task of destruction because the flame of destruction was ignited in the beginning through the same form. So in the end he becomes Rudra. When there is Rudra then Rudra has to make the Rudramala. The work of the beads of the Rudramala is to complete the work of destruction. It is said in the avyakt version that the flame of destruction was ignited in the beginning of the yagya. It is not complete as yet, it was just ignited. In the beginning along with the work of establishment the flame of destruction was also ignited. When this flame of destruction was ignited, Brahma, Bap and the Brahmin children became instrumental. Those who became instruments to start this flame of destruction now have to accomplish this task. These souls have already become instruments. Until and unless all other kingdoms are destroyed, one Devta kingdom cannot be established. Now we children are the helpers in this task. In the beginning of the yagya we also became the helpers in the same task and now in the end we are the helpers again. So the Rudramala has to be revealed first. These are the ones who take on the Rudra form (fierceful form). Parampita Paramatma father together with his children who become his helpers can only do this task. No other human being is capable of doing this. The task of destroying all the religions and all kingdoms and different directions and path are imminent. The directions of one father have to be obeyed and the whole world has to abide by them. Other religious fathers come and establish only their own religions. They do not destroy the old religions. If there is a vessel full of poison and you add more milk to it, it turns all to poison. You have to empty and clean the vessel completely before adding into it. With a mixture you cannot establish swarag. The New World cannot be established like that. The task which no other religious father could do, the task of creating a new world and destroying the old, this task our father comes to do. The same father is now saying that the nirakar is called Rudra, nirakar does not mean just a bindu. The name bindu is only when he is Shiva. He is the bindu father of all the bindu atmas, there cannot be another name for him. The Rudra name is given to him when he is in a nirakari stage and becomes a Rudra roop. This is such a nirakari stage for which Baba has said: " I get destruction done through the one who cannot be blamed of it, he is the one with such a karmateet stage." This is a preordained part. Krishna cannot be called Rudra. The form of Krishna is very sweet and very loving. He can never be Rudra. The Rudra name is for nirakar. Many human beings on hearing the name Rudra, think that Rudra is someone else and Somnath is someone else.

In the scriptures whatever names have been given to Bhagwan are for the work he did and for the part that he played. When the name Somnath is there he definitely must have given somras (nectar). Som means chandrama (moon), for the personality who in practical, plays the part of the gyan chandrama (moon of knowledge). This one who gave him the light of knowledge is called Somnath. Now one Devta government will be established. Do not become happy thinking that we will come into swarag. You will come into swarag but do you want to be praja (subject) or Raja (King)? There is a difference between Raja and praja. Although over there everyone is independent, no one depends on one another, yet there will be differences between Maharaja and praja. Do not just be happy thinking that you will go into swarag, the father has not come to teach praja yoga, even if it means the praja of swarag. The father has come to teach you Raja yoga, he has come to make you Raja. We are sitting in narak now. In this narak whosoever takes on authority has to work hard for his title. They take on the title and earn a lot of money.

For bhagats there should be only one Bhagwan otherwise they will go here and there. They will keep on going from place to place and keep on dying. If the bhagats say that God is omnipresent then where are they going to find him? They will go around the 4 corners to look for him and try to find him in everyone, they call everyone Bhagwan. They think there are many incarnations. The father says I only come once. They have shown 24 incarnations. They have also shown an incarnation of God in every age. In reality I only come once. When there is the shooting period of sangamyug then I come. Why is it then written in the scriptures, I come in every age? It is during the shooting of the 4 scenes in sangamyug that he reveals himself in front of his children. That is why he has been given these forms. They call everyone Bhagwan. The father says I only come once. They sing patitpavan come. They never sing hey! Godfather come and give us gyan. They never call him to give gyan. They call him to purify the impure. The whole world is impure and Bharat is the most impure. Bharat is a beggar, Bharat was like a diamond. In the New World you will get your kingdom. The father makes you understand that Krishna cannot be called Bhagwan. Why can you not call him Bhagwan? They have inserted the name of the one who takes 84 births instead of the one who does not come into the cycle of birth and rebirth. The one who does not come into the cycle of birth and rebirth can be called Bhagwan. Whether it is the cycle of 5000 years or the cycle of the shooting period of nischay (having firm faith) and anischay (lost of faith), birth and rebirth. Definitely there is such a soul or a star through whom Paramatma reveals himself as Paramatma Bap. This star, never circles around, it stays constant. Which star is that? It is called the Northstar. All other stars circle around him. Some stars make a big round and some stars make a small round. They definitely go around in circles. Even the moon has to circle around. The earth also has to circle around. All planets have to circle around.

The father says, I am one who comes into one only. I never come and become omnipresent. It is not that I will come into stones, pebbles, walls etc. This is the language of the father, by stone he means I will not come into a stone intellect. I will not come into an animal, the bull, I will only come into the one who, having heard gyan can catch onto the stage of mana chintan manthan (churning). The one who does manan (churning) is called manush (human). What is the difference between manush and janwar (animal)? Manush has man buddhi (mind and intellect) which he uses, he can do manan and janwar cannot do manan chintan manthan. So I am Ekvyapi (one who comes into one only). I do not come in the form of Krishna. They have inserted Krishna’s name instead of the one who is beyond birth and death. Krishna gets his status from him. Where does Krishna get his status from and in which age? He gets his status in satyug. Krishna takes birth in satyug, so he should definitely take his inheritance from his father. Surely his father must be the one who plays the part of being beyond death and birth during sangamyug. What sort of part is this? This part is of the one who having taken gyan once and having become nischay buddhi (steadfast in firm faith), no one can make him lose that faith. Maya cannot cause his death. The whole world can be on one side and he alone was on the other side. This was only a small sample at the beginning of the yagya but in the end there is going to be a very unlimited drama. During that time, it will be proved that God is almighty and he has such power that he does not depend on anyone yet his children will become his helpers. Only those who are his real children will become his helpers but numberwise according to their spiritual effort.

Baba has said God is one so God’s child should also be one. There is always one senior child, the rest of the children are numberwise and junior to him. So God is one and God’s child is one. In the tradition of Bharat, the oldest son inherits the kingdom. From where did this tradition start? It certainly started at sangamyug by the Supreme Father the Supreme soul, God himself. The oldest child of Parampita Paramatma Bap can only become the oldest on the basis of gyan. Whosoever is big in gyan is the biggest child. So when there is the shakti (power) of manan chintan manthan (churning), then you can become big. For Shankar there is a song in Bharat " Har Har Mahadev shambu kashi Vishwanath Gange" (the one who takes everyone’s sorrow away and become the master of the world, the Ganges flows from him). He becomes the Lord Master of the whole world with the power of yoga. With yoga power (yogbhal), not with physical power (bahubhal), not with the power of money (dhanbhal). Only with yoga power you get the kingdom of the world. The speciality of that form is that he does not come into the cycle of birth and death. He is the Amarnath (Lord of eternity) and his children should be amar (eternal) as well. They should not keep coming into nischay and anischay. It is also sung " Gita is the mother of all the scriptures" and the vedas and upanishads are the creations. Gita is also known as Maibap of all the scriptures, this means the Gita is mother and father of all the scriptures.

Many say you are God and I am God also and we have come here to enjoy ourselves. They stay very intoxicated in that. They say wherever we look we see him (God) only, you are everywhere. I am you and you are me. They keep on saying this and keep on dancing. Thousands become their followers. The father says they are all bhagats and they all pray to God, even the sadhus are bhagats. Worship and praying is for the path of bhakti. If they say he is omnipresent then should they worship everyone? They have to worship the stones and pebbles and satisfy them. Thikar means little mould of mud, you only have to kick it and it breaks. Can God be in them? On the path of gyan there are many thikars, a little kick of Maya and they break away from gyan, they lose their nischay and die. Can Paramatma come into such thikar buddhis? Bither means a wall, these are the ones who in the path of gyan and yet they become walls of obstacles and stand in the way of others. They do not progress themselves and they do not let others progress either. No only they do not make efforts themselves but they do not allow others to do so. The father says I do not come into such devils who cause obstacles. I come only into one. I have a preordained chosen chariot (mukarar rath) in whom I come. The rest are the temporary bodies which I take. It is not that I do not come into the children, I do come into other children and do service but the chosen chariot is only one. This chariot is there in the beginning and in the end he also becomes instrument. The statues of Krishna are made out of thikar (mud) but the living images are in satyug. Whose statues are made out of thikar? Krishna’s and why are they made out of thikar? Because statues have to be made out of pathar (stone) and thikar (mud). The thakurs, which means the living images, were in satyug only. Will there be worship of the living images in satyug? This is all for the sangamyugi swaraj. Right now, the statues are made of thikar. In bhakti they do worship of Bhagwan. Now the statues are of thikar. In satyug the living image will not be of thikar and now Krishna is the body of thikar even though it is a translight picture which they worship like on the path of bhakti. This all can be called a statue of thikar, a mould of mud. The mould of mud is dead and is constantly being kicked around. The one who is, there is no need for him to go here and there. Once he becomes of the one father there is no need for him to bow his head anywhere in the world.

In bhakti they do worship with devotional feelings. Thikar never gives them the vision. The father says I do give visions to those who have devotional feelings for the thikar but they only are granted visions and they do not meet me. Although I do grant them visions they do not meet me. The meaning of vision is not that they have met me. I am the creator of swarag. In bhakti lots and lots of them had visions. Tulsidas, Meera, Surdas, Raidas, they all had visions yet they did not go to swarag, they remained in this world of hell. Bhagwan is known as the heavenly Godfather, so he definitely has to be the creator of heaven. The father says I am the creator of swarag. I do not grant them visions and give them the inheritance of heaven through visions. Those are only visions. There is no reward in it of meeting with Paramatma. In the beginning of the yagya, what happened to Brahma? He just had visions, he did not find the Godfather. These are 2 different things, to have visions is one thing but to find the heavenly Godfather is another thing. The father who is the creator of heaven comes and creates swarag, he makes the heavenly gathering. He creates such a gathering or such a Devta government that no power of the world can break it. Today in all the countries human beings establish governments. Today these governments are there and tomorrow they are no more. The government that Paramatma Bap establishes is indestructible. He is the heavenly Godfather, he says I come and give you the inheritance of swarag. There is only one Bhagwan, by thinking that there are many incarnations they have gone into the depths of degradation. They think that God has taken on many forms. By the knowledge of the scriptures there cannot be salvation. Why do they speak about 24 incarnations? Because there are definitely some special souls in whom the father comes and does service. They think that these are all forms of Paramatma. Whosoever Paramatma Bap comes and does service through them definitely gain status. There are 12 special souls, they gain a special status in satyug and treta. These 12 also have 12 shakits (powers) who are their female helpers. The ones who become Lakshmi and Narayan also become Ram and Sita in tetra. There are 8 thrones in satyug and 12 in treta. In satyug there are not 12 kingdoms. Those who become Lakshmi and Narayan how will they become Ram and Sita? The one who establishes the 8 kingdoms of satyug is the uncrowned king, the one through whom Radhe and Krishna are born. This can be called the 9^th kingdom and then there are 3 more. The 3 kingdoms are of the ones who become special helpers in establishing the kingdom of the world. As there are 4 main religions, there have to be 4 main seeds of these 4 main religions. These 4 seed-form souls are the biggest children of Paramatma Bap. In the scriptures they are shown as the 4 special sons of Brahma who are born in the beginning, they are called Sanath, Sanandan, Sanathan and Sanath Kumar. In the Ramayana, they are shown as the four brothers who controlled the 4 directions. In the 4 directions of the world these 4 religions are spread, Devta Dharam, Islami Dharam, Buddh Dharam and Christian Dharam. The rest are minor religions, which are the branches of these big religions. Out of these 4 the 3 are videshi (foreigners) and vidharmi (foreign religions). They recognize the father first, through these videshis (foreigners) the father is revealed first. Baba announced earlier that the father would be revealed through the foreigners. The false Brahmins started thinking that the videshis from the outside world will reveal the father but these videshis from the outside do not even have gyan. They do not have the depth of gyan and so how can they glorify the father? Will the real children of the father glorify their father or the outsiders? The big names from the outside world can never reveal the father. For the father the children who are in gyan are the real big children. They are the powerful children. They are the ones who glorify the father and reveal him. These are the special selected souls out of the whole world. They are a few out of millions and out of these few there is another selection and only a handful remain who are of the advance party, 4 special souls come out of them and they become instrument to reveal the father.

These 4 special souls first appear in Delhi Rajdhani because the foundation has to be there. So there are 3 souls who at sangamyug get special rewards. These souls in the end of tretayug become the owners of the last 3 kingdoms. By thinking to be many incarnations there has been degradation. In reality those 12 who are the heirs of the 12 thrones and their 12 sehyogini shaktis, these 24 are not the incarnations of Paramatma. Paramatma’s form is only by which Paramatma becomes Ekvyapi (one who comes into one only) and reveals himself in front of the whole world. By following the directions of many means degradation, by unity and by following the direction of one there is salvation. By coming into the company and connection of one father there will be salvation. So from dwarperyug (copper age) by coming into the company and connection with many what has happened? You reach degradation. There cannot be salvation from the gyan of the scriptures because the scriptures are written by many human beings. From there it will be anekta (many directions). You cannot establish one religion, one kingdom, one direction and one language with the gyan of the scriptures. Baba has been giving us the aim and object for a long time now to establish one religion, one kingdom, one direction and one language but has that shrimat been followed up to now? When you do not follow the shrimat, how can there be such an establishment? Then Bhagwan himself has to come. Why does he have to come? To get hold of those who are spreading many directions and many languages and tie them into one direction. It is easy for the one who teaches the easy Rajayoga to tie them into the bondage of one language and one direction. Everyone else is teaching hatha yoga. They cannot teach easy Rajayoga. Easy Rajayoga is to live in the household and remember Paramatma Bap. By going to the jungle and remembering Paramatma you cannot gain anything. The father says everyone after having taken numerous births has now become weak. One is the cycle of physical birth and death and in the sangamyugi world of Brahmins there is the subtle cycle of birth and death. The more one goes around in the cycle of nischay and anischay, the more power one loses. When the soul first comes into gyan it is in satopradhan satvik stage, then slowly it keeps coming into sato, rajo and tamo. You have to play this part of somersaulting.

Bhagwan has to come in a form to teach easy Rajayoga. The father says you have all become weak taking numerous births. Your strength has finished. I have come from Paramdham. I do not go into swarag that I established. The one who says this surely speaks through the mouth. There must be a form through whom he speaks or will the voice come from up above? There definitely is a human form. He says I do not go into swarag. In the tradition of Bharat there is a picture of a Devta who is never shown in swarag, all other Devtas are shown in swarag. Which Devta is that? Brahma is shown in swarag, but Shankar is never shown in swarag. Shankar is shown in the jungle of thorns. From where is that remembered? It is the remembrance of the sangamyugi world of Brahmins. It is the remembrance of the last stage. That part of the actor will not be in the gathering of the golden age himself. Over there will be the gathering of pure souls only. There will be the souls of Vijayamala, the ones who have had a victory over the vices. Only the ones who are pure will get the inheritance from the father. Those who remain impure cannot take the inheritance from the father. The father does establish that world but the control of that gathering he hands over to Vishnu. He has 3 main children, Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar but the control of the heavenly gathering is handed over to Vishnu. Many human beings say that they are doing selfless service but whether they like it or not, they do reap the reward of it. No matter how much selfless service one tries to do, one gets the fruit of it. If you give charity you get the benefit of it, you become rich because in the past you must have done charity. Now you are doing spiritual effort, the more effort you made the higher will be your status of the future. Now you have been taught how to do karmas for your future births. Whatever karmas we learn now, the sanskars for that are being made strong for the future births. Human beings do karmas for the next birth. They also say everything is the fruit of past karmas. In satyug and treta there is no effort making, you cannot say you are making the fruit for 21 births. There is nothing but rewards. The reward for the sangamyugi effort making goes on for 21 births. Sanyasis cannot say that we create such fortunes for you to remain happy for 21 births. Good and bad fruit only God can give. The sanyasis can only bless you for one birth at the most. They cannot give you anything for 21 births.

One mistake that has been made is that they have increased the age of the kalpa. Many say that the kalpa is of 5000 years. Some Muslims came to you and said the age of the kalpa is 5000 years. They must have heard it from here. Many receive these pictures yet not everyone will believe. If you prove the age of the kalpa to be 5000 years you will then prove all the scriptures to be false. So they will not believe you. They will say, are the Brahma Kumaris the only ones who speak the truth? This is Rudra gyan yagya from which the flame of destruction comes out. In this yagya , easy Rajayoga is taught. Krishna’s soul having taken 84 births and now being in his last birth is taking the inheritance from Rudra Shiv. Krishna’s soul is yet to take his inheritance. He is now studying Rajayoga. He is not the one who gives the inheritance. He is sitting here. Where is he sitting? Where is Krishna’s soul sitting? Is he sitting in the translight picture? (Someone answered he is sitting in sakar) Baba responded and asked how is he sitting in sakar. Up till now it has been believed in the Brahmin family that Dada Lekhraj is the soul of Krishna and he has the part of Brahma. Brahma means bari maa, the big mother. Big mother means Jadadamba but Dada Lekhraj has left the body! The souls of the whole world did not have a vision of that Jagadamba (world mother). When there is Jagadamba, she should be the Maa (mother) of the whole world. When there is Jagatpita (world-father) then he should be the pita of the whole world. The whole world will accept and recognize the maatpita (mother and father). The foreigners do not believe in Jagadamba or Godmother but they will definitely recognize Paramatma Bap. They will believe in themselves to be the children of Paramatma Bap, the Supreme soul father. Without mother there cannot be a child. Yes there are some devilish children who are such that they get rid of their mothers. They cut their own mother’s throat, like it is shown, parshuram avatar cut his mother’s neck off with an axe. That mother is still sitting here. There is a song amongst the sikhs, the pure will rule the world. What sort of role is this mother going to play at sangamyug? Khalis (pure). Khalis means the part of purity. Krishna’s soul now in his last birth having had taken 84 births is taking his inheritance from Rudra Shiv. The one who takes the inheritance is different from the one who gives the inheritance. Krishna’s soul is sitting here. He is not the one who gives the inheritance. He first takes the inheritance of the kingdom of the world in the form of Jagadamba then he gives the inheritance to the children. That soul first takes the inheritance from the father and gives it to the children. Baba is different from Jagadamba. You can say Brahma, Jagadamba or Krishna’s soul.

The outsiders call the souls of their ancestors into the bodies of Brahmins to feed them, they call them pitras (ancestors). It is the soul of these ancestors who come and eat. The father gives an example of this that I too call that soul and say to him take your inheritance of the kingdom of the world. On the pilgrimage places they call the souls into the bodies of Brahmins. How does a soul come and speak or eat through these Brahmins? Because some of these souls have gone for a long, long time. Do these souls leave the bodies that they are now in to come to these Brahmins? The father makes us understand that I only grant their wishes for their feelings and they become happy in that. On the path of bhakti it is only the question of pleasing the bhagats to make them happy. There is no reality there. Baba says this secret is also preordained in drama.

When the soul speaks through the body the part is being played. When the soul stops speaking then it has no part. This too is preordained in drama. Stay in Baba’s remembrance and your vikarmas will be destroyed, there is no other method. Everyone has to come through sato, rajo and tamo. It is not that the soul of Krishna does not come into sato, rajo and tamo. It too has to go through sato, rajo and tamo. It too has to come into the cycle of 84 births. It comes into the cycle of nischay and anischay. Now you children should not imbibe anischay about the parts of the mother and father. You should never, never develop anischay. It is said you are the mother and you are the father and we are your children. Mother and father surely have to be in male and female costumes. They are Jagatpita and Jagadamba. People of the other religions also believe in them and call them Adam and Eve, Adham and Hawa, Adidev and Adidevi. The statues of their complete stage are in the temple of Dilwara. There is also a black statue in the Dilwara temple of Kaladev (black deity) sitting in a corner, in a small room. He is shown to be patit and tamopradhan and then they have also shown the gora (pure) form of him. Stay in Bap’s remembrance and your vikarmas will be destroyed, there is no other method. Everyone has to go through sato, rajo and tamo.

Even during the shooting period when the soul takes gyan it is in a satopradhan stage and later reaches the tamo stage. In every yug’s shooting there are 4 stages. If you look at the picture of the world cycle, which Baba ordered to make, pay attention to the colors shown in satyug, tetra, dawaper and kaliyug. There is difference in the colors, the colors are light to start with and then they darken. This is the proof that in every yug first there is the stage of satopradhan and then later tamopradhan. In the scriptures they have written God comes at the end of every age. He does not come at the end of every age but in the shooting period at the end of every age, Paramatma Bap is revealed in front of the children in a special form. The father says I make you the master of the New World once again. I come from Paramdham into the Old World, into the old body. This one was worshipworthy but he became a worshipper and I make him worshipworthy again. As he is, so are the children. Not only this one becomes worshipworthy and worshipper, you too become worshipworthy and worshipper. This one is the number one effort-maker. I also make you worshipworthy. Why do you call them Mateshwari and Pitashri (Mother goddess and Highest father)? Because definitely the mother played the first part of establishing swarag. Through whom is heaven created? Through Brahma is the creation of heaven and through Shankar the destruction of the world of hell. The father says make efforts to become crownworthy and throneworthy. This Jagadamba fulfills the desires of everyone’s mind. When there is mother there has to be a father as well. It cannot be that there is mother and the father is not there. In Bharat there is no song and praise for the widowed mothers. There is no worship for the widowed mother. In Bharat the mothers who are worshipped are fortunate brides. The Bharat mata who is worshipped is not a widow. When there is Bharat matta there is also Bharat pita. You cannot just keep calling salutations to the mother. They keep a picture of mata and do not remember pita. When Jagadamba fulfills everyone’s desire there has to be a father as well and there should also be children. You show everyone the true path and all your desires are fulfilled in satyug. Do not get the wrong meaning of this gyan by thinking that all your desires should be fulfilled now. Right now we are servers. If the desires of our mind are being fulfilled now then who is the one fulfilling them? Baba says Maya is the one who fulfills the temporary desires of now. The father fulfills the permanent desires. They go in front of Jagadamba to get all their desires fulfilled.

Baba says if you have complete yoga whilst living in the household then you can have a higher status than even the ones living here but there is a condition. By living in a household there should be complete yoga with Bap. It is not that everyone living in the household will get a high status, otherwise no one will come and surrender here in front of the father and make efforts. But it is said staying in a household if you have a complete relationship of the intellect with the father then you can have a high status. This is only a possibility because it is not said that everyone living in a household will get a high status.

There are many females in bondage. Unless and until someone from the government awakens, these females will keep on being beaten up. Last night Baba was explaining to the Home Minister that some solutions should be reached for this. The solution being how to liberate these females so that they can come to the satsang and use their lives for Baba’s service. You need 2 or 3 ministers who will listen and then they become aware of this. Who are the females in bondage in the world of Brahmins? Who can be called females in bondage here? That talk was for the lokik world, the talk of the basic knowledge. In this Brahmin world who are in gyan and are surrendered, when they recognize the father they come into bondage. They are not granted permission to meet the father. So which home minister should come out? There should be 2 or 4 ministers like this, but where will they come from? Will they come from the outside government? Will the ministers from the outside world do this work? If it is in their fortune they will believe this because this gyan is very slippery. It is not the gyan, which goes straight into the intellect. If the ones from the Sikh religion find out about this then they will understand. From human being to become a Devta does not take long, this is sung by the Sikhs. They say in the Sikh religion that to make Devtas out of human beings did not take long. The father comes and creates the kingdom within no time. Sikhs also say one and only truth who is immortal. This is the praise for the father. Akalmurat means, the one whom death cannot eat. Murat means corporeal. A beautiful gathering takes place where the satguru becomes the agent. In order to give salvation, the satguru has to be corporeal. He is akalmurat, his throne is like the Brahm element. That is why it is said leave your high throne and come to this earth. They sing leave your high throne in the sky and come to this earth. Like we are on this earth stuck in bodyconsciousness in order to liberate us. You come to this earth by leaving your high throne. Like I am sakar you too come and become sakar. I am in a patit body, you too come down here. In Sikhs, there is another song about the satguru washing dirty clothes. Cloth means the body. Godfather does not come and only bathes the souls. You need the Supreme soul to wash the dirt from the soul. The one, who comes into Brahma’s body and speaks gyan, it is not that after speaking gyan he goes away. Paramatma’s aim and object is not just to speak the gyan. His aim and object is to purify the impure. This is the promise of the father, children I will take you with me, we will stay together, we will live together, we will play together, we will sit together, we will eat together, we will drink together. So how can the father go back without fulfilling this promise. We call him saying leave the high throne in the sky and come to this earth. Just like you see the stars above, souls are also stars. The father explains now, he is the one who knows the beginning, the middle and the end of the whole world cycle. Not that he knows everyone’s hearts. He does not know what is in everyone’s heart. They remember God in order to attain salvation.